Systemd

[uudruid74]

UHmm ... 'forced' to maintain init scripts?  Dude.  Hate to tell you this, but this is UNIX, not Windows.  If you develop a Unix service, you can write the init script or let the admin do it, but this has been a standard for ... 40 years?  Thats like saying a Windows developer is "foced" to have an installer program.

 

A shell-less boot?  I hate to tell you this, but a shell is part of UNIX.  I need a shell no matter what.  I don't need DBUS.  A UNIX shell is a requirement of a UNIX system.  You are adding requirements, not taking them away.

 

Linux = Linus + Unix

 

Just proof that systemd mongers are trying to take the Unix (and the FREEDOM of Unix - I LIKE to modify my scripts, thank you) out of my Linux box and replace it with a bunch of junk.  I was really trying to give the systemd crowd the benefit of the doubt, but you went off the deep-end with the worst arguments I've ever heard.

 

You are definately troll-bait!  Adding to my block-list

[digifuzzy]

I think nrc's original post in reply to OP should be the last word...

There are plenty of distros that support systemd.  I believe that it's important that someone is doing the work to make a Linux distro that works without systemd.   The developers are tackling a complicated problem with upstream projects that are not always supportive (one might even say they're hostile) to their goal.   Unless the goal is to attract more users for the sake of having more users it makes no sense to compromise that effort by splitting the userbase and the development effort between installs with and without systemd.

[nrc]

I think nrc's original post in reply to OP should be the last word...

 

Thanks, digifuzzy.  I'll just add that if anyone considers this thread to be a flamewar they must be a sensitive soul indeed.