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This is resolved now. I wasn't clear enough on my original bug report so I think it was mistaken for a different problem that had already been fixed.

Unfortunately with just two cores and 1GB of RAM it's going to take a while. I've compiled on old dual core systems before but never with less than 4GB of RAM. That took a little over a day.

I did a recent install and did not run into that. Which stage3 are you using? Are you still blocked by this?

It looks like Gentoo has a test build of 6.0.5. I'd suggest requesting an update in the bug tracker. https://bugs.funtoo.org/

I've found --depclean to be pretty safe as far as not breaking things needed for the system. Sometimes it will catch something that you use that was pulled in rather than installed specifically. Pretty easy to fix. In the case of liberation-fonts, is that really a hard dependency for it to work correctly in the default build, or does it just fall back to an available substitute? If so, it's a bug that you should report on on the bug tracker.

It looks like there's an open bug for this on the Funtoo bug tracker. Work was underway but the fix hasn't been pushed out. Looks like they may be sorting out what needs updated along with the core package. Your best bet is to comment or vote on this bug. https://bugs.funtoo.org/browse/FL-9854

Welcome @seemant. Happy to see you join the project. I think the challenge is communicating direction and progress in a way that is more fluid and responsive to development opportunities and user needs than the traditional "roadmap." As we've seen in this thread, we can't expect casual users to get an good view of the direction and activity of the project by gleaning it from available information scattered across sources. How do we communicate to users the value of the Funtoo approach over the mainstream roadmaps and checkboxes approach? How do we stop trying to be all things to all people without coming off as arrogant, dismissive, or incomplete when something a user is asking for falls outside our focus? This will arise more and more as the beard is trimmed.

The problem with traditional "roadmaps" is that they assume that you know exactly where you're going and how you're going to get there. The typical business roadmap also includes a schedule for getting there. None of those things align with the objective of being a community distro. We have a general vision of what we want the distro to be and how we want to accomplish that, but exactly how that plays out depends on what the community wants and how much they can contribute. The ability to pursue an important opportunity or idea when it arises is more important than ticking boxes for comparison shoppers. With limited resources it's more important to be focused on what they community wants and needs than to create roadmaps that dictate a course that may not be appropriate. Wayland is a perfect example. Everyone has to support it because everyone else supports it and you have to check the boxes in the distro competition. Who cares? Nobody, really. Until it makes my desktop better without creating any fresh headaches, Xorg is fine thanks. As for BDFL, every pack has a leader. The pack spots opportunities and communicates them, but it's the pack leader that says go or no go. There needs to be an executive authority. We've seen that community distros go terribly wrong when they become distro by committee. The squeaky wheel gets the grease and and corporate paid developers can get very squeaky. There needs to be a single decision point that will put the needs of the distro first. Only those who trust drobbins to do that should join the pack.

Are you getting an error from grub prior to dropping to the prompt? Usually that suggests that the specified kernel wasn't found. Any errors when running `ego boot --check` ?

Yes, the goal is to be more current. It's a work in progress. There's an issue open for this. The problem is cleaning up packages that claim dependence on python2.7. https://bugs.funtoo.org/browse/FL-7503

The "wolf pack" thing reminded me of this thread. Could "Funtoo" be the name of a wolf mascot/logo? Maybe a cute wolf pup if you want the "fun" aspect or a stylized adult if you want the bold trail blazer aspect?

I made a good faith effort to answer your questions. I'm really not interested in arguing about it.

It seems like you're missing the point. Yes, 1.4 was a while ago. The point is that the quoted release notes explained that Funtoo was transitioning from a Gentoo-style rolling release distro to a more curated, kit-based distro. The objective of Funtoo is to create reliable software that works for its users. In a project this size that means keeping change at a manageable level and focusing on fixes and updates that matter to the users. Prior to 1.4 Funtoo was not reliable because Gentoo was not reliable. Now Funtoo is very stable and reliable. If whatever innovation you're looking for is more important to you than that, then Funtoo isn't for you. It's very friendly to the users who don't want their systems broken by updates that provide no benefit to them. It helps Funtoo focus their effort in areas where it will most benefit users who care enough to participate. You keep talking about "innovation" but it sounds like you're really just wanting latest software releases. Funtoo may not be the best option for that if you're not looking to participate. If you don't consider Funtoo's change in direction to being a more stable, kit-driven distro to be "innovation" that's fine. Maybe that's not what you're looking for. But I'm curious what innovations you're seeing in Gentoo that you feel are lacking in Funtoo?

Autogeneration of ebuilds only exists because the process and infrastructure to do it are being developed. Nobody has entered an RFE to update xfce4. Why would they make that a priority if nobody cares enough to request it? Funtoo doesn't just mirror the Gentoo tree the way they once did. That was creating too many stability problems. From the 1.4 release notes: https://www.funtoo.org/Release_Notes/1.4-release If that doesn't sound like the right distro then Gentoo may be a better option for you. The Gentoo forums are probably a better place for tips on how to migrate to Gentoo.

If you check the Jira bug tracker or Discord site things are reasonably active. I think the "roadmap" is "keep making Funtoo more current and more maintainable." All the work that has gone into kits and now autogen packages has made a big difference in that respect. @drobbins pondered whether a forum was still necessary and relevant the last time he revamped the site. I felt at the time it was still important to provide that visible, easy gateway into the community for new people. But it just doesn't seem to be the kind of center of activity for the project that forums used to be so maybe it doesn't represent the project well.