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with the introduction of kits, Funtoo has become unusable; too much time is spent on the installation & optimizations".

 

I honestly think that this new "strategy / policy" is something very complex to handle for a medium user.

 

forgive me ..... I do not want to offend anyone. : |

 

Also .... how will it be possible to know if there is a upgrade to a particular kit?


 

Excuseme please :(

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Are you asking how would you know if there's a new prime branch of a kit?  I think at the moment that's going to have to be user driven, you *want* to use a certain version and so you'll check if there's a prime kit for it.  Otherwise, if you stick to default you'll just roll with funtoo whenever it changes.

 

It might also be a good idea for ego to check /etc/ego.conf for obsolete pinned kits, so the user can take action to update.  Not sure if that's a feature (or planned) yet, but I don't think there's many new prime branches yet anyways.  The only one I've looked at so far is python-3.6.

 

About "mqaster i've made a little experiment;

I can set in /ettc/ego.conf for example xorg-kit = master withouth having to specify the version :)

 

So this trouble i think is solved :)

 

The topic is here :)

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Think the transition has been more difficult and piecemeal than would be ideal.  I think once the transition is complete and all the tools are in place Funtoo has the potential to be a much better distro for the average user than it has been.  Kits have the potential to reduce the number of breaking changes that get through to users.

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Funtoo is undoubtedly Super-Genius ....
I am convinced that .... in theory it can be the absolute novelty in the computer field.
Sorry if I complained; only that not always for some (including me) can understand things "on the fly".

Thanks for your thought :)

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Also .... how will it be possible to know if there is a upgrade to a particular kit?
 

 

Why would you want to know if there was an upgrade to a particular kit? Portage tells you that. If you do an emerge then you see the corresponding kit after the package name, e.g.:

emerge -pv opengl

These are the packages that would be emerged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R    ] virtual/opengl-7.0-r1::xorg-kit  0 KiB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 KiB

As you can see, opengl is in xorg-kit.

 

 

What do you mean by "too much time is spent on the installation & optimizations"?

 

After the initial kinks from the move to kits are resolved the installation works the same as before. No extra steps are required.

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Are you asking how would you know if there's a new prime branch of a kit?  I think at the moment that's going to have to be user driven, you *want* to use a certain version and so you'll check if there's a prime kit for it.  Otherwise, if you stick to default you'll just roll with funtoo whenever it changes.

 

It might also be a good idea for ego to check /etc/ego.conf for obsolete pinned kits, so the user can take action to update.  Not sure if that's a feature (or planned) yet, but I don't think there's many new prime branches yet anyways.  The only one I've looked at so far is python-3.6.

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