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  1. Yes, there are some binary portage pakages and package servers. Some popular and resource-intensive ebuilds will have a binnary ebuild in the funtoo/gentoo repos as well. For instance firefox and icedtea ebuilds are accompanied with firefox-bin and icedtea-bin ebuilds. My laptop's portage is actualy configured to ask's my desktop to emerge packages from source and build binary packages using the laptops use and cflags. The laptop then uses the dektop as a binary packager server. (My initial install was done by using portage to cross-compile and copying the boootable img to a usb for testing/installation) But that is besides the point. While initial setup is usualy quite time consuming, its not suppose to remain that way. From the sound of it, your main problem was failure to understand what use flags are. Ill admit that the funtoo installation documentation fails misrably in describing what they do. However, it does link to the gentoo handbook which gives a detailed description of what they do. I would recommend you read it in it's entity if you haven't already. Simply put, USE flags determine what each package/program supports. Generally, use flags determine what each package marks as it's dependencies, and alters the options passed to ./configure for the package. eg. For vlc, the 'qt5' use flag would give you the normal qt based vlc GUI. Failure to add a gtk/qt/ncurses/etc use flag to vlc would result in only cvlc being compiled, giving no GUI. However, wouldn't this ean that by default almost nothing is supported? In which case, we would have to add a bunch of use flags to out make.conf for basic support? No, luckily profile-config gives us an easy way of adding basic support to a system. Depending on what you plan to install/support, you should add different flavors/mixins from profile-config to get your default-use flags set for your system. For instance, the kde mixin would add kde-related use flags into the profile. Since you mentioned you only have core selected, yet are using X11 and buysybox. I would like to recommend adding funtoo/1.0/linux-gnu/mix-ins/X to it (if not now autoselected by desktop). Now, although I understand you don't plan on continuing with funtoo due to the frustrations you are experiencing on initial setup, I would like to still request that you post the output so, in the off chancew that you decide to try again, we may have an answer for you. In addition to that, I would also like to request you post the contents of '/var/log/emerge.log'. With this much info, we may be better able to help. In the event you continue using funtoo and run into further errors, you may wish to join the irc. While its harder to be detailed there, I personally find it more than adaquit for most problems. Especially for common problems such as circular deps and setting use flags. While it's not very helpful, and you defiantly should NOT copy/past it, here is my make.conf. I commented my reasonings for adding most of the global use flags. Not that these alone do not run my installation. I also have several use flags set in /etc/portage/package.use/* , and have a few things in package.unmask, package.accept_keywords, and package.license . For the most part though, unmask-write and dispatch-config added these. CFLAGS is/was set to the recommened values. If you wish to compile binaries to be used on other systems, you may wish to change this CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe" CXXFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe" # I have 4 cores with hyperthreading, so 8 threads+1 to keep all us busy. MAKEOPTS="-j9" USE=" My cpu is showing support for these, So I compile everything with them. This shouldn't be needed, however, as they are selected by my march. I'm not sure why I felt compelled to list them... sse sse2 sse3 sse4 ssse3 mmx bash-completion yanks the cli out of hell. So I add support for it by default. Without this, even if bash-completion ebuild is emerged, most programs will not provide tab completion. I like the lzma compression, especialy when I am stuck trying to cram a bunch of crap onto a small usb stick or cd. pcre, or perl compatable regular experession, allow me to do things like grep -P '.+' , and similar in vim . I was intregued with perl for a while, so I have a tendency to write perl regex's. This makes that tendency non decrimental bash-completion lzma pcre I personnaly hate cups on gentoo/funtoo. I keept ran into circular dependencies with cups, cups-filter, and some other package whenever cups was updated. As I do not actually own a printer (new printers always mark the ink as expired before I make a second print, usualy printing only 3 times a year). I have also marked it in package.provided and manualy added cups-header o system for compiling icedtea. This is the most complex thing I usualy have to do after completing install. And it's actually not all that bad. -cups Awesomewm uses lua, cairo, and I believe libnotify, adding support for it lets things like mpv and conky to better fit in the my WM. Some apps, like audacious, may add notifications (like track changed) when compiled with libnotify. As a single user system, consolekit is pointless. cairo -consolekit libnotify -policykit dbus udev 'dvi' is the LaTex dovument format; dvi I frequently play with programs which make use of opengl like blender and qemu, apparently. opengl gles2 3dnow I use alsa, so I have support for it by default. Many packages are setup to support pulse by default, however, making portage attempt to install pulse as a dep. As such, I explisitly state that I do not want to support for it. I like ffmpeg, matroska, and flac. I want any video players or editors I install to support them too! Furthermore, I love watching my matroska shows and movies on a colored ascii shell(libcaca). Very high quality! (this a joke, though I do love option) Metadata? Yes, I utilize it! As such I add exif support to anything that can support it so I can easily view/alter infor on photoes and tracks. alsa aalib -pulseaudio ffmpeg flac matroska thumbnail imlib2 imlib imagemagick jpeg png svg libcaca exif I am using awesomewm, thus gnome and kde support is generaly unwanted. Note that adding gnome use flag wont necessarly install gnome, but it will add packages needed by anything you have installed that have gnome specific support options. However, I don't want gnome support, as it would just add wasted cpu cycles compiling ang running the program. Not to mention time compiling gnome-common and other packages necessary for gnome support. Note semantic-desktop, kde semantic search and retrieval, is used by most kde-desktop applications. or all applications. Never used emacs... -kde -emacs webkit canberra X xattr Text/Fonts truetype unicode My system is pure64. I even removed x86 support from the kernel. While profile should have added this, I have it here for re-ensurence. -multilib I have ipv6, so I ensure everything supports using it. without ipv6 here, some programs will not be able to use it by default. If you don't have ipv6, '-ipv6' should be used instead to remove support. Which is a good idea since if ipv6 support is added, it is tried first for ~all requests. Adding noticeable lag in networks with no or error pron ipv6 support. (comcast gave us ipv6 local network and had a ipv6 dns server defined on the modem by default, but we did not have external ipv6 support. aaaa request thus hung and initial connections to sites were extreamly slow Furthermore it seemed like my system re-attemprted to establish an ipv6 adress ~every 15 minutes. My network now prefers ipv4, and I have created a ipv6 over ipv4 tunnel for use with ipv6 only sites, completly removing the previous lag.) ssl nls ipv6 My deskop is hardwired, no hardware for wifi nor bluetooth devices. So support is sensless. without '-wifi' packages like networkmanager may add useless apps for controlling such. -wifi -bluetooth Installed apache2. However, my installed php build did not have apache2 support. Added apache2 use flag to add support. apache2 apache2_modules_proxy_ajp apache2_modules_proxy " End of USE The rest of the file. LINGUAS="en ja" VIDEO_CARDS="nouveau" # If I am using blender a lot, I compile support for both and switch on boot. # I dont keep it since I get tired of pathing nvidia. using git-sources. # VIDEO_CARDS="nouveau nvidia" ALSA_CARDS="hda-intel" INPUT_DEVICES="evdev" Oftentime, you can fix use errors by simply adding '--autounmask-write' to the emerge command. After which, running dispatch-conf should show changes emerge wishes to make in /etc/portage/package.use or package.unmask. If it looks good you can accept the changes. If you ever want to know what use flags are availible, or what they are for, you can find it online here or you can read it localy in '/usr/portage/profiles/use.desc' and '/usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc' You can find short descriptions and acceptable values for other things as well such as VIDEO_CARDS, INPUT_DEVICES, and ALSA_CARDS in the files listed by find /usr/portage/profiles/ -regex '.*\.desc$' Though thses shouldn't be of much interest too you until you have use flags down. PS. When I first tried to install gentoo, It took me 3 tries and about 6 days. I was coming from ubuntu/debian with ~2 years worth of experience on it. Dispite being relitivly new to GNU/Linux, I was actually able to do everything was perfectly thanks to the manual... except for missing the kernel support for my hard-drive (silicon-disk or something like that). I kept thinking it was grub2 since I believe it somehow ended up showing some unrelated error message after the kernel crashed (grub2 was near brand new at the time). By the 3rd install I had a 64gb usb stcik with 13 distros on it, recursive menues (generated by grub functions) for toggling things like X/nox, failsafe, x86/amd_64, vesa, forensicmode, networkless mode, recoverey mode... If it was in the original boot menu, I created a toggle for it in the custom grub2.cfg. At that point, I knew there was no way that the simple grub2 config was the problem. And was soon able to diagnose the real error and was dirctede to Debian HCL; Check Kernel Driver Support and report modules which made the solution clear as day. Point being, mine was a simple fix in the end, and I am hopeful that yours will be too. PPS. Thinking about it again, peer-peeer networking with all users acting as binhost could be interesting. However, I would imain verifying every possible binary created (all use options, using every supported version of packages it depends on, which also could be compiled withany use, and any verson of deps... )) would be impossible. So while we could create such a network, we couldnt verify that the majourity of the binaries are truely what they claim to be (except by compiling them ourselves with the same versions of all used packages, which would make the peer network pointless since we or a authoritive server has to compile the package in the end for verification).
  2. If you are running it in a chroot, or can ssh into it, then Could you post the output of emerge --info ; profile-config show And also the output of emerge -NavDu --backtrack=50 -p @world The '--backtrack=50' sometimes is all thats needed to fix the issue. But it's likely we will need to be a bit more involved. If your stuck without network connectivity on the machine, or the above options are problematic for some other reason, Run emerge --info >/tmp/PortageInfo ; profile-config show >>/tmp/PortageInfo; emerge -NavDu --backtrack=50 -p @world > /tmp/EmergeInfo And then copy the files onto a usb stick to post You may also wish to do this, and then boot into another OS and open the files from there. Just be sure to change the path from /tmp/ to something else like /home/user/
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