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  1. First, if you haven't, I suggest reading up a little on passive vs. active PFC, waveform, etc.  Second, my (older) CyberPower CP1500PFCLCD works a treat with apcupsd.  From what I've seen, at least some newer CyberPower models work, as well, though I don't think there is an exhaustive list anywhere.  It looks as though the LE850G uses USB for communication, so I think chances are good it will work.

  2. 2 hours ago, drobbins said:

    From an install instructions perspective, they are correct. You should remove python-3.6 as Funtoo Linux 1.4 does not have python-3.6 and instead has python-3.7. So if you are upgrading your system to 1.4 and want your system to be set up that way, it is necessary to remove python-3.6.

    Umm.  Okay.  I suppose this all makes sense to people with deep insight into Funtoo, but it's awful confusing to this user.  Python 3.6 is in the tree, but it's not part of Funtoo 1.4.  Software which I find critical is in the tree, but does not have a Python 3.7 target (only 3.5 and 3.6).  So I keep Python 3.6 and therefore I'm deviating from Funtoo 1.4, I guess.  I did not know that what I did was not supported.  Seems the correct thing to do was to remove 3.6, and break that critical software.  It needed to be fixed for 3.7, but I had no idea about this when I started the upgrade.  I'm not sure how I would know that there are packages without 3.7 targets before I get to the part of the upgrade where I sync the new tree.  Even after, unless I'm actively looking for for these problems, I don't think any red flags would get raised before the step where Python 3.6 is removed.  If there was warning about this potential problem area, I must have missed it.  I guess I'm saying I don't know where I went wrong in this process.  What should I have done differently?

  3. 3 hours ago, drobbins said:

    @dkg you should really not file Funtoo bugs on the Gentoo bug tracker. It is an issue in Funtoo, not Gentoo. Please close the bug as invalid on Gentoo's bug tracker and file it on Funtoo's bug tracker.

    I am both a Gentoo user and a Funtoo user.  Would you like me to open a bug on both trackers?

  4. I'm confused by the way that the 1.4 upgrade instructions state, unconditionally, "Remove python-3.6 as it will no longer be used."  There are at least a couple of ebuilds in the tree that do not have a Python 3.7 target, e.g., net-fs/s3ql and dev-python/pycrypto.  What am I missing?

  5. I appreciate the post, but I'd like to ask a question.  It seems to me that with the chroot method, there is going to be no integration or interaction between the "host" and the chroot "guest".  That is, I can't start an application in the chroot by clicking on a Plasma icon, or using 'Open With' in Dolphin.  Or the other direction, having a command in a Windows app open a folder in Dolphin or Konsole, or a URL in Firefox.  Have you found ways to make things like this work with your method?  Thanks.

  6. I'm getting spam in my logs in my container from agetty like this:

    Jul 21 00:19:58 dkg agetty[5782]: /dev/tty1: cannot open as standard input: No such file or directory                                                                                  
    Jul 21 00:19:58 dkg agetty[5784]: /dev/tty3: cannot open as standard input: No such file or directory                                                                                  
    Jul 21 00:19:58 dkg agetty[5786]: /dev/tty5: cannot open as standard input: No such file or directory                                                                                  
    Jul 21 00:19:58 dkg agetty[5787]: /dev/tty6: cannot open as standard input: No such file or directory                                                                                  
    Jul 21 00:19:58 dkg agetty[5783]: /dev/tty2: cannot open as standard input: No such file or directory                                                                                  
    Jul 21 00:19:58 dkg agetty[5785]: /dev/tty4: cannot open as standard input: No such file or directory

    Which is true, those devices do not exist.  And it makes sense that a container isn't going to have all these ttys, either.  I just don't know how to tell it not to look for them.


  7. On 4/7/2019 at 10:53 PM, drobbins said:

    @dkg Sorry that Funtoo is not working for you but unfortunately the multilib implementation in Gentoo that 'works' for people has serious technical issues that make it hard to maintain. It is getting in the way of certain important efforts in Funtoo. We are likely going to circle back to multilib at some point but with a better implementation.

    Believe me, I appreciate that multilib is a hack, and I've had plenty of issues with it over the years.  And I can accept that my use case is uncommon.  It's also a use case that is not addressed well by chroot or containers, unfortunately.  Hope my feedback was useful, anyway.

    By the way, I cannot figure out why the forums do not send me an email when someone replies to a post or thread I'm following.  Don't know if it's just me or what.

  8. On 4/5/2019 at 3:06 PM, librin.so.1 said:

    If You're referring to the 32-bit chroot wiki page, then indeed, it fails to mention that the host's epro profiles, flavors and mix-ins (which otherwise likely provide the "X" use flag for You) do not carry over to the chroot and thus need to be set there independently.

    I'm aware that and X server is going to magically appear in the chroot, but I was hoping xhost would make it unnecessary, though I was pretty sure going in that it would not.

    On 4/5/2019 at 3:06 PM, librin.so.1 said:

    Appears You did not make a WoW64 build of wine (I mentioned it in my "guide") and thus only got x86 wine available, so this is expected.

    No, I did not, as I had no need to run 64-bit Windows apps.  The point is, I could not copy the wine *prefixes* over.  This, I did not anticipate.  Not disaster, but definitely a pain.

    On 4/5/2019 at 3:06 PM, librin.so.1 said:

    BTW, I'd personally switch back to gentoo, too. But alas, my hatred towards systemd dwarfs the inconvenience of removed multilib support, so I'm staying with funtoo.

    Gentoo still uses openrc by default.

    Meanwhile, I'm still limping along with Funtoo 1.2 on that system.

  9. Well, since a few weeks have passed with no suggestions for my difficulties, nor news of a solution in the near term, I guess I'm faced with "downgrading" this system to Gentoo.  As much as I love Funtoo's extra features (enough that I've been a financial supporter of Funtoo for years), it just isn't providing the things I need for this system.  Hope to bring it back to Funtoo one day.

  10. Since adding the 'X' use flag to wine-vanilla/wine-staging (not currently mentioned in guide), I can actually launch a program now.  However, I could not use a copy of the existing wine prefix, as it complained that it "is not a 64-bit installation, it cannot be used with a 32-bit wineserver."  I'd have to rebuild the prefix from scratch, not knowing all the tweaks I made to get it where it is.  With work, I could probably copy the things needed to bring it into shape.  But, it doesn't have access to any of the files from either my home folder nor NFS mounts.  I'd have to bind remount a number of things - I actually gave up remounting /home due to some issues I ran into, and concerns about sharing files between them, especially given 64-bit vs. 32-bit.  For one of my applications, I will currently load an optical disk using KDE's mounting mechanisms to '/run/media/$user/...' then have the Windows app read the disk.  I'm not seeing how to do that without a lot of hand-holding.  Also haven't figured out to launch an application without the whole tedious su/xhost/chroot/su sequence.  I also just realized that in one app, foobar2000, I use a number of features that allow me to do things like launch Konsole or Dolphin to the folder containing the music file; as-is, I could only get this to launch one of those apps within the chroot - but I would want to be using the "native" apps, not install KDE into the chroot.

    In other words, so far, this looks to be a very poor substitute for multi-lib, at least where running wine is concerned, and where the goal is not to puts the apps in a chroot jail.

  11. No success so far.  Following the wiki instructions, when I run winecfg at the end, I get the following.  I did run the 'xhost' command.

    0009:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded.
    0009:err:winediag:nodrv_CreateWindow The graphics driver is missing. Check your build!


  12. On 2/18/2019 at 10:16 PM, librin.so.1 said:

    Tarballs of what? If You mean funtoo stage3 tarballs, just use a 1.3 tarball for the chroot. It's not like the chroot has to match the base  OS in version or anything.

    Yes, I don't know why I left "stage3" out of the post.  I was not aware that they could run different versions of funtoo.  If I find time, I will give it a try this weekend.  Thanks.

  13. I have a few important apps that I run in wine (not Steam or games).  Before I go all in with the 1.3 upgrade, I wanted to try creating a 32-bit chroot in 1.2 to make sure I could get wine and apps working.  The problem is, I don't see any 32-bit tarballs available for 1.2 - only 64-bit.  How else might one go about this?

  14. I think the Upgrade Instructions may be missing steps regarding the python upgrade.  It says to run these commands:

    # emerge -u1 =dev-lang/python-3.6*
    # emerge -C =dev-lang/python-3.4*

    Both systems that I've upgraded to 1.2, I got this message when trying to remove python-3.4:

    [root@wolfie 73% etc]# emerge -C =dev-lang/python-3.4*
     * This action can remove important packages! In order to be safer, use
     * `emerge -pv --depclean <atom>` to check for reverse dependencies before
     * removing packages.
    >>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:
     * Not unmerging package dev-lang/python-3.4.6-r1 since there is no valid
     * reason for Portage to unmerge currently used Python interpreter.
    >>> No packages selected for removal by unmerge

    I don't recall exactly what I did the last time (it was some time ago), but today I tried first to use 'eselect python set'.  This removed the '(fallback)' status for python3.6, but did not get rid of the above message.  I ended up using 'eselect python edit' and entering a '-' before python3.4.  This has happened to me twice now, which suggests it's not something weird that I did.

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