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Sure, glad it helped. My 'Stupid Admin Tricks' thread contains additional info and scripts (soon to be moved to my server) Taglines suck. https://eddon.systems

Huh? 172.103.64.0/18 starts at 172.103.63.1 through 172.103.127.254. 172.97.*.* isn't included by that mask. Thank about it. 16 bits would take over the first two bytes and 18 bits is even longer. You almost had me panicked. I was about to contact Steve and ask him what's up. I worked with him awhile back and I'm sure he remembers me. Taglines suck. https://eddon.systems

As soon as I read permission denied and saw that it used to work, I thought 'it was run as root and now root owns the file so you don't have permission'. Obviously, I know this because I've made the mistake myself. That's why root's prompt is red and the system name is part of the prompt (ever been ssh'd to other systems and not realize you are in the wrong window?) I even make my home systems prompts a different color for the same reason and I keep 3 directory names showing in the prompt so I know if I'm in /usr/lib or /usr/local/lib and root has rm aliased to rm -i Experience shows that its the simplest of mistakes that will bite us. Glad you got it worked out. Taglines suck. https://eddon.systems

Installer scripts become more useful when they work from a config file generated from a GUI. And the goal isn't necessarily to be totally noob-friendly, but rather a more efficient process. However, there are couple of GUI tools compatible with portage such as port-hole and there is a portage back end for Gnome Apps. Taglines suck. https://eddon.systems

The general response I got was that Gentoo/Funtoo users don't want a graphical installer. From my standpoint, I just want the install process to be faster, less error prone, and easier to duplicate. And I think we could win over a lot of users that want to install in a simple and fast manner, but don't want systemd. From a server standpoint, I can understand why rolling releases offer too many variables and why portage 'stable snapshots' would be advantageous, but few people know how to set that up. For example, it would be nice to if the installer wrote a config that could be shared on Google Drive or something and then the next install could just ask if you wanted to configure the system the same way. Taglines suck. https://eddon.systems

One would be great. Anyone have any ideas? Taglines suck. https://eddon.systems

The main issue is not the installation, IMHO, but the fact that it is not a distribution, but a meta-distribution. The choices on system tools have not been made for you. Which tools and how they are configured is up to you. This is incredibly powerful, but with any great power comes great responsibility. Its up to you to make informed choices and if you aren't a Linux veteran, you simply can't do that. Yes, the defaults are sensible, but many of the things we take for granted are things new users would screw up. I actually suggested a graphical installer that would automate and autodetect standard configurations and install binary packages so you can get up and running as quickly as possible with binaries for the larger apps so you aren't spending all your time and bandwidth. My plan on this was to use a web based installer so that you can install headless and this makes the system fairly easy to modify (unlike anaconda) with shell scripts as the backend and ShellInABox for raw shell commands. There wasn't any demand so its been shelved. Taglines suck. https://eddon.systems

Funtoo front page is comming up in Portugese or something. I think its trying to figure out where I am at by my IP, which is horribly broken quite often for network (horrible satellite and behind a NAT to boot). That part can't be fixed, but can you add a way to over-ride the auto-detect with some sort of "English" button.

The problem with a native Joomla solution is that the files would have to be moved to where the web server can't get them and you'd need to always log in through Joomla. I want easy direct URLs with no Joomla crap. I don't want a Joomla module. I just don't want two sets of passwords. Under Apache, you have a number of auth modules to authenticate the user. I need to be able to do that with tengine Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

Oh... and one more thing. This wouldn't solve my problem at all. I want to avoid two sets of passwords. I doubt pyd.io will authenticate against my joomla database, will it? Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

I don't like the idea of having to install yet more software on my system, and then move these files out of the web server directory to somewhere else. Then, the pyd.io demo failed on my phone. I couldn't tap on the password field, had to use my tab key (which most keyboards don't have) and it still wouldn't log in. Not impressed. I just want to use a different authentication method in tengine. That shouldn't be too hard. Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

Right, and tengine only supports auth_basic which I have set now

Tapatalk wont let me re-edit and my phone auto-corrected. Should have said Ebuild, not rebuild. Sorry Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

You misunderstood the problem. I can work with pam and all that. This isnt an admin question but more of a tengine question with some funtoo complications. OOTB, Nginx and tengine only support file based, auth_basic authentication. Joomla has its own authentication and user scheme which is backed by mysql. I have some stuff I want to protect in the file system so HTTP authentication makes more sense than relying on joomla to protect access (since you could always use a direct URL to bypass php) There is an external module which you either have to compile from source or install as an "extras" RPM which provides auth_pam. This is only ever mentioned for nginx, not tengine, but it should (in theory) be compatible especially if compiled from source against tengine's tree. Now, enter funtoo. There is no rebuild for this so if it works, it could get destroyed on the next update. I am NOT changing Linux user authentication. Pam can be used to authenticate any subsystem against anything else, so this one auth_pam would let nginx (and hopefully tengine) authenticate against anything. Make more sense now? Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

No, I don't care about scalability and I doubt Ill ever have more than a handful of users (total). On a single machine ldap would be a waste as it uses mysql as its backend. And joomla is just a cms. I don't think it can auth against leap. Besides, I'm not trying to make this more complicated. I just don't want to have the password protection used for access to sensitive files to be different from the joomla password. I hate having to maintain multiple passwords for a single website and want to do that to someone else.

I want to authenticate users against a mysql database (joomla) before allowing access to certain areas of the filesystem. I'm using tengine. I found an auth_pam that can be used to authenticate against myself through pam. How can I install this under funtoo for tengine? Anyone do anything like this before? Thanks Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

VNC isn't the best Protocol for remote viewing. If you are using Linux to Linux then plain X is better (ssh will just forward X connections if you tell it) and there are ways of adding compression and such on X. There are other methods too. For me, I don't do any remote GUI stuff since I use either satellite or cellular for my data connection. Byobu manages plain text shells, old school dumb terminal style. In fact, I used to use screen (one of the byobu backends) with a dial up modem! Then again, I've run X like that too using a low bandwidth X extension Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

It will always be an extension as it does change the way Gnome works. Docks and window lists always go on the overview screen as part of the modal interface. At first, I had turned on many of the same extensions to have a more familiar interface, but I found that I liked gnome better without them. I think of it like desktop icons... seems like a good idea until you have 20 windows open and need a 'show desktop' Icon to get to your desktop icons... but I rather like the 'Places' menu. However, I do wish the refresh button on the Wifi selection screen would be made a default! Surely not being to refresh the list of networks was an oversight and not a design choice.

Gnome's Overview mode isn't about Expos?. Its about redesigning the interface into one that is modal. You don't have docks, taskbars, or app menus to launch programs mixed with your work. This is really different and takes a bit to get used to. This makes a lot of people hate Gnome 3. From a pure user-interface design stand-point, if you discount what people are used to, its much better. If your goal is to tailor your UI to what people are used to seeing then you just clone something else and Linux stays behind everyone else for innovations. So, you hit the Windows key and it enters a mode used to launch applications or switch between them (or switch desktops). This is also where your search is at. Someone asked me for someone's phone number and my cell phone was downstairs, so I tapped the Win key and typed part if the name. It pulled it from my Contacts list and gave me the info immediately. I have never opened the Gnome contact manager application. I had given Gnome Accounts my Google ID and allowed it to sync. It knows my contacts and gives me notifications of calendar events right on my desktop. Wanna hear a song? Tap Win and type the name. New notifications flash the screen back on temporarily so I can see it. Extensions will let you extend the search to the web if you like, or give you back your application menu or dock if you want to tailor your system. Its easily flexible and it works, out of the box, without me spending time fiddling with some lock screen trigger to fake Expose! And BTW, I wouldn't like a hot-spot since this doubles the mouse movements. Tap Win, select window, and I usually know where it will appear, so its VERY fast at task switching! Much faster than a hit-spot trigger or paging through an alt-tab list (although that's available) This is a level of integration that people are used to having on their phones, and now the Gnome desktop does it.

Could you give more detail on that?

Yeah I tend to use byobu (tmux) over ssh and in my drop-down terminal (I like having a terminal that survives my desktop) and Gnome for general desktop. And my laptop is touch screen and I think Gnome beats every other 'desktop' OS for touchscreen.

Sounds kinda defensive! And I doubt you've got a keybinding that replicates Gnome's overview mode. For me, the apps I use are Gnome, so Gnome desktop makes sense. Luckily, Linux lets you choose

I think it depends on your usage patterns. One isn't always better or you wouldn't have choices. If you have 20 apps all writing to different parts of the disk that would be way different than a benchmark. Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

Its a number of things. I like having things well integrated snd uniform. For generalbwork flow, I'm really liking the use of the Windows key for everything. Rather than trying to resize windows and then alt-tab between them, a single key gives me an overview and direct access to the window I want. A pull down terminal is always available via F2. Hardware support is cleanly integrated. For example, I frequently keep my phone plugged into USB. MTP works great. I tap one button on my phone and the MTP Icon goes away and USB networking is turned on. Tap it again and I'm back to MTP.

Openbox, lxde, or xfce. The latter having the most features and eye-candy. Personally, I think if your hardware is so old that it can't run a modern desktop, you shouldn't put X on it at all. Anything modern, and Gnome isn't going to slow it down if you have enough RAM and RAM is cheap. The only thing thats slow on my system is Android Studio, and switching desktops isn't going to help, and its a fairly old AMD-based laptop at 1.6Ghz (max) ... then again, I have plenty of RAM and it doesn't swap. Point being, switching to a 'lighter' desktop won't speed up my work flow. Missing features could very well slow things down.