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This is now fixed :)

Hi All,
ego-2.2.0 has been released, and is an important update, and will be appearing in meta-repo soon.
New functionality has been added to help you view kit configuration. To view your current kit settings, type:
# ego kit status This will display your current kit settings, as well as their stability level. The stability level is set by Funtoo and lets you know if you are running something we consider 'stable' or not. We recommend that all our users use kits that have a 'prime' stability level. Note that this is different than the kit having 'prime' in its name! When I create a kit, I may call it 1.1-prime if the goal is to make it production-quality, but the moment it is created, it is still considered 'dev' (developers only) status. Type "man ego-kit" for more information on this.
It is now also possible to view a similar listing, but one that displays ALL available kits and their stability levels, by typing:
# ego kit list This new release of ego also includes a host of other improvements, such as improvements to the "ego doc" MediaWiki parser.
Enjoy, Daniel

Hey all, welcome to the new forums! Our old forum software has been upgraded to the latest version and I'm going to be working hard to help make this a really great resource for everyone.
Our "Funtoo Universe" section is set up in a traditional forum style, and "Help Central" is now in a Q&A-style mode. Let me know how you like the Q&A style mode. Both sets of forums allow you to tag posts as being answered and we have the ability to flag the best answer.

Hi All,
ego-2.2.0 has been released, and is an important update, and will be appearing in meta-repo soon.
New functionality has been added to help you view kit configuration. To view your current kit settings, type:
# ego kit status This will display your current kit settings, as well as their stability level. The stability level is set by Funtoo and lets you know if you are running something we consider 'stable' or not. We recommend that all our users use kits that have a 'prime' stability level. Note that this is different than the kit having 'prime' in its name! When I create a kit, I may call it 1.1-prime if the goal is to make it production-quality, but the moment it is created, it is still considered 'dev' (developers only) status. Type "man ego-kit" for more information on this.
It is now also possible to view a similar listing, but one that displays ALL available kits and their stability levels, by typing:
# ego kit list This new release of ego also includes a host of other improvements, such as improvements to the "ego doc" MediaWiki parser.
Enjoy, Daniel

Hi All,
ego-2.2.0 has been released, and is an important update, and will be appearing in meta-repo soon.
New functionality has been added to help you view kit configuration. To view your current kit settings, type:
# ego kit status This will display your current kit settings, as well as their stability level. The stability level is set by Funtoo and lets you know if you are running something we consider 'stable' or not. We recommend that all our users use kits that have a 'prime' stability level. Note that this is different than the kit having 'prime' in its name! When I create a kit, I may call it 1.1-prime if the goal is to make it production-quality, but the moment it is created, it is still considered 'dev' (developers only) status. Type "man ego-kit" for more information on this.
It is now also possible to view a similar listing, but one that displays ALL available kits and their stability levels, by typing:
# ego kit list This new release of ego also includes a host of other improvements, such as improvements to the "ego doc" MediaWiki parser.
Enjoy, Daniel

Found it!
The trick is "# emerge -auDN --newrepo @world". The '--newrepo' option is crucial.
Update 19 Oct 2017:
The command above works for more than 1000 packages I have installed, except the qt* packages. For these stubborn qt* packages I had to do the following:
emerge -Cav "dev-qt/qt*" * This action can remove important packages! In order to be safer, use * `emerge -pv --depclean <atom>` to check for reverse dependencies before * removing packages. >>> These are the packages that would be unmerged: dev-qt/qtsql selected: 5.9.2 protected: none omitted: none dev-qt/qtx11extras selected: 5.7.1 protected: none omitted: none ... truncated for clarity ... dev-qt/qtprintsupport selected: 5.7.1 protected: none omitted: none All selected packages: =dev-qt/qtwidgets-5.7.1 =dev-qt/qtgui-4.8.7 =dev-qt/qtcore-5.9.2 =dev-qt/qtwebchannel-5.7.1 =dev-qt/qtpositioning-5.9.2 =dev-qt/qtopengl-4.8.7 =dev-qt/qtcore-4.8.7-r2 =dev-qt/qtwebengine-5.7.1-r2 =dev-qt/qtgui-5.7.1 =dev-qt/qtsql-5.9.2 =dev-qt/qtprintsupport-5.7.1 =dev-qt/qtdeclarative-5.7.1 = dev-qt/qtxmlpatterns-5.9.2 =dev-qt/qtdbus-5.9.2 =dev-qt/qtsvg-4.8.7 =dev-qt/qtopengl-5.7.1 =dev-qt/qtxml-5.9.2 =dev-qt/qttranslations-4.8.7 =dev-qt/qtdbus-4.8.7 =dev-qt/qtchooser-0_p20170803 =dev-qt/qtwebkit-5.7.1 =dev-qt/qttest-5.9.2 =dev-qt/qtnetwork-5.9.2 =dev-qt/qtsvg-5.7.1 =dev-qt/qtscript-4.8.7 =dev-qt/qtconcu rrent-5.9.2 =dev-qt/qtx11extras-5.7.1 >>> 'Selected' packages are slated for removal. >>> 'Protected' and 'omitted' packages will not be removed. Would you like to unmerge these packages? [Yes/No] Yes Next, run this command:
 
# Here I have renamed the /usr/portage directory for backup emerge -av @preserved-rebuild  

Hey all, welcome to the new forums! Our old forum software has been upgraded to the latest version and I'm going to be working hard to help make this a really great resource for everyone.
Our "Funtoo Universe" section is set up in a traditional forum style, and "Help Central" is now in a Q&A-style mode. Let me know how you like the Q&A style mode. Both sets of forums allow you to tag posts as being answered and we have the ability to flag the best answer.

Hey all, welcome to the new forums! Our old forum software has been upgraded to the latest version and I'm going to be working hard to help make this a really great resource for everyone.
Our "Funtoo Universe" section is set up in a traditional forum style, and "Help Central" is now in a Q&A-style mode. Let me know how you like the Q&A style mode. Both sets of forums allow you to tag posts as being answered and we have the ability to flag the best answer.

When we create a 'prime' kit, the idea is that it is snapshotted so we can stabilize it for users. The name is supposed to reflect the version of the main thing in the kit. It looks like we chose a bad time to create 5.10-prime but the general idea would be to just do bug fixes on it until it is very high 'prime' quality.
It may have been better to create a 5-prime kde-kit and that is something we could look into doing instead. I don't use KDE so I need input from others about what is likely to be stable over the long haul.
The goal of a prime kde kit is to just get everything working consistently for users. It may not be bleeding edge but it will be a good starting point. And then we would roll out newer prime kits that are also stable, etc. so the changes would come in controlled and tested groups rather than dribble in as they do now.

I've decided to keep the forums.

I've decided to keep the forums.

Funtoo Linux with the default kits will be very similar to the old 'stable', with fewer updates. Users who want more bleeding-edge will need to deviate from our default kit branches and will need an upcoming version of ego to do this.

Hi everyone,
 
We've decided to retire funtoo-stable to keep us focused as we move towards funtoo kits and other next-generation initiatives. I recommend that all stable users migrate to funtoo-current.
 

I've decided to keep the forums.

I've decided to keep the forums.

I forgot to post this in the forums, but make sure you read about Funtoo kits:
 
http://www.funtoo.org/News:New_Ports-2017_tree_and_Kits

I forgot to post this in the forums, but make sure you read about Funtoo kits:
 
http://www.funtoo.org/News:New_Ports-2017_tree_and_Kits

I've decided to keep the forums.

Hi, and thanks for considering Funtoo. I think that debian-sources is the best kernel to use. It does have speakup modules enabled by default.
 
99% of the ebuilds in Funtoo are identical to those in Gentoo. So, both the ebuilds you mention are available and come direct from Gentoo. The best way to get a list of available ebuilds is to grab our Portage tree via git and look at its contents into the funtoo branch.
 
The greatest challenge for installing Funtoo would be to find a LiveCD that has speakup support for the installation process. As long as you know of a good livecd with speakup support that gives you a bash shell and has all the necessary commands for installation (which basically is just your mkfs commands of choice and fdisk or gdisk, and chroot, and can establish a network connection) then you should be ready to go.
 
Best Regards,
 
-Daniel

Also note that our stage3's include a pre-built debian kernel with speakup enabled, so you shouldn't need to mess with building a kernel at all. Just use what we include.

A lot of good points. I especially like the constructive negative comments which make it helpful to think through the pros and cons.
 
While we don't have a lot of inbound links from reddit, we do have a ton of organic traffic flowing in from reddit.
 
-Daniel

Hi all,
 
I'm seriously considering shutting down our funtoo forums and just redirecting everyone over to https://www.reddit.com/r/funtoo/for 'forums'.
 
Reason: reddit gets funtoo a lot more exposure and provides a popular forums-style discussion area.
 
Before making a decision, I want to get feedback from people here. It is cool to have our own forums but there is also some downside that only a fraction of Funtoo users participate in forums and new users may have an easier time posting questions to reddit. It also ensures that our funtoo reddit community will be 'staffed' with true funtoo users, which is important.
 
Let me know what you think.
 
-Daniel

I think it's a good idea,
 
Advantages:
- If it lowers the strain on you guys and allows you to focus on more important issues, I'm all for it.
- More exposure is great.
 
But there are downsides (or rather, issues to be resolved):
 
Automation:
 
this one hurts the most in the long run. Can we connect reddit to the chat in the same way the bugtracker and git commits are
integrated into the chat? Reddit might be more interested in displaying ads than helping us with using their platform. And you
cannot display ads to an automated script.
 
- How do you create backups of reddit posts?
I mean, not everyone posts to the bug tracker, and if for example a bug is resolved in a reddit post, how do you index that?
I've heard of mailing lists containing priceless information on the fine details of how a distro works, without backups. If you loose
the mailing list, you'd be in serious trouble.
 
- How do you distinguish real funtoo users from gentoo users on reddit?
I'm not against them helping people, but I really would like some visual identification that someone actually using funtoo is
replying to issues. The more funtoo diverges from gentoo (like the epro profiles) the more we'll be in trouble with gentoo
users assuming they know what they are doing.
If I see a reddit post, I really want to be able to glance at a reddit post and see that a funtoo user responded.
 
Also, there are also guides on the funtoo forums on how to setup stuff e.g.:
http://forums.funtoo.org/blog/13/entry-15-setting-up-a-web-server-nginx
http://forums.funtoo.org/blog/10/entry-11-adding-ssl-to-tengine-nginx/
 
- If we're in the same boat as reddit, we also inherit the reddit community
All the trolling, spamming, DDoSing etc. If reddit goes down (hell, github was taken
down some time ago) do I loose anything?
 
I think they shouldn't be lost, A half-decent backup would be great.
But I'd make a good backup of the forums and store it somewhere safe.
 
Also relevant:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1148643/pg1
This is a serious issue: reddit is a company and should be distrusted in the same manner as any other company.
They're not a community: they are a company.
 
I'd recommend to do a complete search on the bad sides of reddit, and to do it with multiple search engines.
I'd post more but I'm kinda strapped for time this week.
 
TL;DR I'm for it, but make sure you're aware of the disadvantages.

Hey Everyone,
Read the latest news about improving your experience in Funtoo - Ego and Vim:
 
http://www.funtoo.org/News:Better_Experiences:_Ego_and_Vim
 
Best Regards,
 
Daniel Robbins, BDFL

Hey everyone, I've written up a news item detailing all the stuff that's going on with Funtoo to keep it focused on you, our users. Give it a read:
 
http://www.funtoo.org/News:How_We%27re_Keeping_You_At_the_Center_of_the_Funtoo_Universe
 
Best Regards,
 
Daniel Robbins
BDFL