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  1. 5 points
    drobbins

    Funtoo release model

    We are not doing rolling release for the following reasons: Too much time is spent on fixing various breakages coming in from Gentoo, which takes time away from other things... other things are more important such as new technology like fchroot and the upcoming containerization solution... If users are interested in certain packages being updated, I am encouraging them to submit a pull request and maintain these ebuilds themselves, so I am going to focus on helping YOU maintain ebuilds rather than have a few people (this has generally been Oleg) maintaining them for everyone. This model doesn't scale -- we all need to do a little bit rather than a few people doing a lot. See the YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKmOY6p3c9hxv3vJMAF8vVw for tutorials Short-term, this means development slows down. But in reality, it will speed up development greatly. For those hanging out on IRC, you know that Oleg who has helped to maintain Funtoo for years has moved on to a new chapter in his life, so he is no longer active on Funtoo. But even though I am not slaving away over here, thanks to incoming pull requests Funtoo is continuing to move forward and be responsive to user needs. So think of it as a course correction as we become more agile and community-oriented, and be part of the solution. If you are reading this, it means you are part of the Funtoo community and just as able to contribute to Funtoo as anyone else (maybe with some tutorials/videos to help). When I work on technologies, I am trying more to work on key tools that help the community be more productive (like fchroot) rather than focusing on specific ebuilds, which I am leaving to the community to manage using pull requests. Best, Daniel
  2. 4 points
    Hey Everyone, I want to officially announce 'fchroot', Funtoo's new QEMU-based chroot tool which allows you to chroot into ARM stage3's and live systems using your 64-bit PC. It is pretty neat stuff. Check out this video for a demo: Enjoy 🙂 -Daniel
  3. 2 points
    Note to all -- this kernel has been unmasked and is ready for general use.
  4. 2 points
    lazlo.vii

    Is Funtoo dying?

    Funtoo isn't dying. Funtoo is changing just like it always has. You know far better than we do what you want from your Linux distro so ask yourself if you have liked all of the past changes to Funtoo. Then stick with it and have some faith in the wisdom of our BDFL. If you don't like what you see in a year or two you can go to another distro and have not lost anything. I originally switched to Funtoo because too many things in Gentoo and Debian stayed the same. Having bleeding edge packages wasn't why I used Gentoo. It was because it gave me a greater degree of control than any other OS. The reason I love Debian is because the stable release is always stable but unfortunately I have to give a lot of control to use it. Funtoo can give me the control that I want and at the same time give me the stability that I need so I am keeping an open mind. If you have the skills to contribute to the code base and improve things for all of us I encourage you to get involved. If you are like me and couldn't write a program if your life depended on it then I encourage you donate a bit of money to Funtoo every month.
  5. 1 point
    drazahoib

    Information to possibly help others

    Fresh install of Funtoo I began getting Fetch Failed, 502 Bad Gateway and 404 Not Found errors emerging tcp-wrappers the first in the series of actually emerging KDE. After a fair amount of frustration \ research, I emerged mirrorselect and then ran mirrorselect -i -c usa Now everything is emerging with no errors. i hope this helps others. Enjoy, Scott A. Guthrie drazahoib
  6. 1 point
    mlinuxgada

    Funtoo release model

    @lazlo.vii You know, it will be much better if you at least try to be polite, right? @drobbins Back to the topic - if you want to get more and more involved into funtoo dev - isnt it better to have current/dev branch? If you want devs, isnt it a must to have at least dev branch,where they can work with ?! I mean, some of the major distros release based models have that : - Debian has unstable/sid -> testing ... -> stable release major/minor releases - FreeBSD has current -> release -> .. stable I still don't get it with removing current branch. Do releases, implement whatever process you think its best for you. But keep the current. Or, explain how it can be done.
  7. 1 point
    mlinuxgada

    Funtoo release model

    About doing smth, well, some do, me included. Small, but here and there. The question is more about the direction things are going. We all know release model is much easier than rolling distro. One of the reasons I jumped on Gentoo/long time ago/ then on Funtoo is the rolling model. Some of the others are that its source based, slots, alot of customisation/flags ... etc. My point is - today you decide to switch from rolling to release, eg no current, just freezed releases. Tomorrow nothing stops you from source based to package/bin oriented ? Maybe Debian clone /one of dozens/ ? Dont get me wrong. I use funtoo not geeky weekends, where I can spend whole day install/reinstall/fiddle with this or that. My workstation is build on Funtoo. My work depends on Funtoo. If some1 decides to flip a coin and make a decision, when I am not sure about the general direction ... I can install a Debian/Manjaro in minutes, but I dont want to. I want Funtoo as it was for years - just to have current.
  8. 1 point
    All, @bcowan has made our day better with a new debian-sources-4.9.161_p1 ebuild which is available for testing, but currently package-masked so it doesn't install by default. To get emerge to see it, add the following to /etc/portage/package.keywords: =sys-kernel/debian-sources-lts-4.9.161_p1 ** Then do: # emerge debian-sources-lts # ego boot update # reboot Please report any bugs or issues to https://bugs.funtoo.org. Thanks 🙂
  9. 1 point
    savasten

    Is Funtoo dying?

    I believe that Funtoo has switched to a more stable release cycle (Not exactly, more like a break less stuff cycle). @drobbins has also released some great videos on his youtube channel for submitting put requests to have the community start helping with the updates.
  10. 1 point
    Hey Everyone, I've gone ahead and patched debian-sources-lts so that we have support for the latest Intel e1000e Ethernet chipsets. I ported an updated driver from 4.20/5.x into the new 4.9.144_p3-r1 ebuild. My Intel Core i7 8700-based system is now happily using its on-board Ethernet rather than needing a USB-based Ethernet dongle. Enjoy the kernel and also be sure to report any hardware compatibility issues that may be impacting you and preventing you from using debian-sources-lts to bugs.funtoo.org. I can always look into porting updated drivers to get this kernel working better for you. Best, Daniel
  11. 1 point
    mrl5

    feedback (for devs)

    So I had to update my desktop system from version 1.2 to 1.3 and I've chosen to do the fresh install from the stage3 (stage3-core2_64-1.3-release-std-2019-02-05). But.. During the process I've noticed some (at least for me) ugly things that I would like to inform developers about: TL;DR: metalog is NOT added to any runlevel by default. I think it should be added to default/boot runlevel by default sshd IS added to the default runlevel by default. I think it's bad - this should be disabled by default ... if you want to read further please be advised that I'll be grumpy from now on: I've noticed that version 1.3 is out because there were no updates for a while yep it was announced but I'm not checking neither funtoo.org nor forums.funtoo.org on a regular basis - what happened with good old eselect news? I can not find any information when the support for 1.2 version ends - LTS schedule could help with planning the upgrade ... (please consider sth like this: https://nodejs.org/en/about/releases/ ) and yeah performing a fresh install is time consuming, at least for a desktop machine - so it would be cool to be aware early that end of support for 1.2 is coming and that it's recommended to do a fresh install I think that funtoo.org web page should be rearranged. Here is what I mean: there are a lot of useful articles there but often they are hidden and I can find them only via google there should be a section where you can see all of the articles examples: https://www.funtoo.org/Security https://www.funtoo.org/Installing_a_Logger forums.funtoo.org I was not able to write this post using vanilla firefox-bin-65.0 (w/o any addons) I had to do it by using google-chrome ... wow you've came that far now I'll be sentimental: Gentoo was my first distro back in early 2000s When Daniel started Funtoo, for me it was something cool, something fresh I have a feeling that now the Funtoo Project is going in some weird direction (from end user perspective) that is different to what I was used to back in the days. People on the #funtoo IRC channel used to be more responsive I wrote this post in a good faith. I like funtoo but I'm close to the point where I will switch to other distro ... TBH it strongly depends how long and how smooth will be the process of building rest of desktop environment. Ofc everyone has his own point of view but I really wanted to give you some feedback. If I somehow missed something and somebody disagrees - I look forward to know your point of view.
  12. 1 point
    nrc

    feedback (for devs)

    Thanks. I hadn't realized that "PasswordAuthentication" doesn't affect PAM authentication. I've always secured my machines by only allowing ssh access to accounts that I specifically configure. It's @drobbins call but I still think it's a bad idea to configure ssh by default on machines where novice users may believe that their physical console is the only vector for someone to attack their trivial password. There definitely should be some documentation in the install procedure for locking that down.
  13. 1 point
    bcowan

    Questions/Issues With ARM Installation Guide

    That page needs re-worked and is pretty dated. Portage snapshots are no longer valid afaik, everything is taken care of with git and ego sync. Here is a more in depth wiki page, but its a little involved, allot can be ignored. A simplified version of it is needed. https://www.funtoo.org/Funtoo_Linux_Installation_on_RPI
  14. 1 point
    nrc

    feedback (for devs)

    @drobbins nixed the sshd suggestion in FL-6294, but I looked at the latest baselayout and it looks like the default configuration has PasswordAuthentication set to "no" which should minimize any risk. I still think it's better not to have this running if it's not needed or specifically wanted. My build process always includes setting openssh the configuration according to my standards but there's some risk there for the unaware if openssh is compromised.
  15. 1 point
    savasten

    feedback (for devs)

    Sorry for the questions? sshd running by default - did you file a bug report? Have you all checked out the youtube videos on contributing? Lets fix these things. We are Funtoo, @drobbins, @Oleg Vinichenko and other regulars are the directors. If it is broken fix it.
  16. 1 point
    nrc

    feedback (for devs)

    It seems to me that metalog and sshd defaults should depend on what flavor you're installing. A desktop flavor shouldn't have either by default while a server flavor should have metalog. I'd say that neither should have sshd by default unless you have the amazon-ec2 or some kind of "headless" mix-in. Funtoo hasn't used `eselect news` since probably 2015. I think the problem was managing news in too many different places. Originally the intent was to put them on a wiki News page but that appears abandoned. The News and Announcements forum here seems to be the best source. It looks like if you hit follow at the top of forum you can get an email notification of news items. Funtoo has gone from being just a slightly different spin on Gentoo to something really unique among distros. I think that's great. I'm happy with what I understand of the new direction. I enjoy the fact that we're not saddled with systemd and that customization is virtually limitless, but the "rolling release" model means that you can never truly have a stable system. On a regular basis something gets rolled in that breaks things badly and you are forced to drop everything and fix it right now to get a working system again. If this new stepping release model provides a more stable system that is still more flexible and current than your typical binary release, I think it will be a win. The key will be keeping updates coming on a regular basis. @drobbins launched Funtoo to work on new directions for Gentoo without dealing with the mess that Gentoo had become. Whether or not Funtoo is the right distro for someone probably depends on how closely your goals for a distro align with his. As I read his comments and see the direction of progress I'm on board. But part of the mess that Gentoo had become was lack of communication between developers and the user base, so I think your criticism of some of the communication gaps is fair.
  17. 1 point
    leprosys

    feedback (for devs)

    I have that feeling that maybe Funtoo needs more devs.
  18. 1 point
    lazlo.vii

    USE flags? Why so necessary?

    When I did a fresh Funtoo 1.3 install on my desktop PC I just set my profile with epro and installed the KDE meta package and it worked (nearly) flawlessly. I did something like this: #epro flavor desktop # epro mix-ins kde-plasma-5-new # epro mix-ins no-systemd # epro mix-ins gfxcard-nvidia # emerge -vauND --with-bdeps=y @world # (say yes to any USE flag changes) # dispatch-conf # emerge -vauND --with-bdeps=y @world #emerge -va xorg-server nvidia-drivers nvidia-settings # emerge -va plasma-meta # (say yes to any USE flag changes) # dispatch-conf # emerge -va plasma-meta I have zero USE flags set in my make.conf and in package.use I only have what portage added.
  19. 1 point
    drobbins

    New drobbins YouTube vlog

    Hi All, I've created a new YouTube vlog entry for your enjoyment. This one is about the latest shocking news of being let go from a job. View it here -- I appreciate it if you help me get the word out about my channel, send me some upwardly-pointing thumbs and possibly even subscribe! 🙂 Thanks! Best, Daniel
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