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  1. drobbins

    Funtoo release model

    Hey I just want to jump in and say it's OK, I understand if there are some people that are disappointed about us not having pure rolling releases anymore. It's fine to express your opinions here. I think that's totally understandable, frankly. Now yes, these changes were totally needed and like I said earlier, there is a strategy that is being very successful so far even though it's in its early stages. The strategy is that I support our users (with things like YouTube videos, code.funtoo.org, fchroot) to be contributors to Funtoo. So yes, right now I think it's fair to say we are playing a bit of catch-up with Oleg moving on to other things -- BUT, considering we just started this effort, I also think it's fair to say that in time we will likely catch up and even go beyond what we were capable of before. And that means that we can push ahead more with many more updates and possibly even a more up-to-date release (betas?) or a true rolling release again. In the mean time, I ask @lazlo.vii and others to be supportive of those expressing disappointment since I want people to have a place to vent their disappointment -- I don't see it being overboard or in poor taste at all -- and in my experience, the worst thing for a community is if any disappointment is bottled up and never expressed (and then we need to guess why people are unhappy) so I would much rather have people share how they feel. As long as they understand the reason for the decision, it's fine to share feedback and vent a bit.
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  2. drobbins

    Funtoo release model

    We are not doing rolling release for the following reasons: Too much time is spent on fixing various breakages coming in from Gentoo, which takes time away from other things... other things are more important such as new technology like fchroot and the upcoming containerization solution... If users are interested in certain packages being updated, I am encouraging them to submit a pull request and maintain these ebuilds themselves, so I am going to focus on helping YOU maintain ebuilds rather than have a few people (this has generally been Oleg) maintaining them for everyone. This model doesn't scale -- we all need to do a little bit rather than a few people doing a lot. See the YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKmOY6p3c9hxv3vJMAF8vVw for tutorials Short-term, this means development slows down. But in reality, it will speed up development greatly. For those hanging out on IRC, you know that Oleg who has helped to maintain Funtoo for years has moved on to a new chapter in his life, so he is no longer active on Funtoo. But even though I am not slaving away over here, thanks to incoming pull requests Funtoo is continuing to move forward and be responsive to user needs. So think of it as a course correction as we become more agile and community-oriented, and be part of the solution. If you are reading this, it means you are part of the Funtoo community and just as able to contribute to Funtoo as anyone else (maybe with some tutorials/videos to help). When I work on technologies, I am trying more to work on key tools that help the community be more productive (like fchroot) rather than focusing on specific ebuilds, which I am leaving to the community to manage using pull requests. Best, Daniel
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