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#1 2013-04-30 22:17:25

Deklan
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From: Porto Alegre, RS - Brazil
Registered: 2012-10-07
Posts: 24

OpenRC to systemd

Proceed with a new Funtoo installation with systemd!
Currently working as OpenRC?
What are the risks?

systemd System Manager:
http://www.knowyourlinux.com/sites/defa … madm_0.png

Last edited by Deklan (2013-07-30 13:35:22)

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#2 2013-05-01 01:46:25

san2ban
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From: Bangalore, India
Registered: 2012-03-20
Posts: 146

Re: OpenRC to systemd

Deklan

We are trying to avoid SystemD lke "the plague". Surprised that you are inclined towards it.

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#3 2013-05-01 02:29:48

Deklan
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From: Porto Alegre, RS - Brazil
Registered: 2012-10-07
Posts: 24

Re: OpenRC to systemd

san2ban

I was researching systemd today and found it interesting!
I'm no expert, I have no intention, property or need to defend the Funtoo systemd;
I thought it might be a considerable innovation to Funtoo wink

Only I was thrilled to see this video:
http://youtu.be/4NXMmHYNYfA

Last edited by Deklan (2013-05-15 03:11:11)

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#4 2013-05-01 02:32:46

angry_vincent
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From: Ukraine
Registered: 2010-10-07
Posts: 687

Re: OpenRC to systemd

there is no any improvement in systemd, besides slightly faster boot and aggressive advertisement that systemd is absolutely required on every linux distribution.

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#5 2013-05-01 09:00:58

Ancipital
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Registered: 2013-04-22
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Re: OpenRC to systemd

In my not so humble opinion, SystemD is not innovation. It is one step forward and then two steps back. I also avoid it like the plague, in fact, this is exactly why I moved away from other distributions. The reason: Archlinux moved to systemd and forced me to move with them, breaking all of my custom written init scripts. So I did switch - not to systemd, but to funtoo. Bye bye Arch.

Also, systemd is much less transparent (i.e. "voodoo") and much harder to understand, implement, bug fix, et cetera. As I have to manage a lot of servers I can't switch to systemd. And I really don't care to have my servers boot faster when their average uptime is anywhere between 3 and 9 months.

Sorry but this whole systemd topic just makes me very annoyed, you can't help that OP, so I'm not attacking you or anything. I'm just a "bit" bitter about systemd. wink

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#6 2013-05-01 09:10:28

angry_vincent
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Posts: 687

Re: OpenRC to systemd

this thread doesn't belong to Funtoo Linux installation topic. Please, reopen in general discussion, i suspect too much threads here smile

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#7 2013-05-01 15:23:29

san2ban
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From: Bangalore, India
Registered: 2012-03-20
Posts: 146

Re: OpenRC to systemd

Ancipital

Myself, a former archer, quit due to this systemd. Enjoying Funtoo very much.
Hoping to see the day, Gentoo merges with Funtoo, Daniel sitting on top

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#8 2013-05-01 17:56:31

leprosys
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From: El Salvador
Registered: 2010-10-07
Posts: 54

Re: OpenRC to systemd

Now I read this interesting article about systemd:
http://www.linuxadvocates.com/2013/05/s … appen.html

I am in favor of openrc, I never liked systemd

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#9 2013-05-01 18:18:04

404_Error
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From: Quebec city, Quebec, Canada
Registered: 2010-10-08
Posts: 511

Re: OpenRC to systemd

To make things clear once for all : no systemd will make its way in Funtoo soon. It is not because all  others Linux distributions are moving to  it that we will follow the movement. Even big vendors like RedHat have justed introduced it and it tends to makes things much more messy and fuzzy than they were for the little I have used.  I don't see the benefits of an "event-driven" system startup, OpenRC already has equivalent capabilities. This is more or less the last phrase the pointed out article  above states....

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#10 2013-05-02 23:59:06

Cloud
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Registered: 2011-09-20
Posts: 10

Re: OpenRC to systemd

Deklan wrote:

Proceed with a new Funtoo installation with systemD!
Currently working as OpenRC?
What are the risks?

Unlike most people here, I actually don't mind systemd and use it on a regular basis with my server. I don't really see the point of replacing openrc with it, but there's a guide on the gentoo wiki if you want to migrate over, http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd. As for the risks, systemd is fully functional on gentoo/funtoo so you shouldn't run into any problems, just make sure you keep openrc installed since several ebuilds use the functions that are provided in it.

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#11 2013-06-12 19:03:14

drumfire
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Registered: 2013-06-12
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Re: OpenRC to systemd

Well, even though I am obviously no fan by far, it's good that the possibility is there for those who do want to tinker.

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