Making Funtoo more Fun...
Posted 15 July 2014 - 10:05 PM
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Posted 16 July 2014 - 01:10 AM
good plan. do the most helpful stuff and big stuff, and let the details sort themselves out....
Duke: No more of that talk or I'll put the f*cking leeches on you, understand?
Paul: [about Percy] The man is mean and careless and stupid, and that's a bad combination in a place like this.
Posted 25 July 2014 - 04:47 PM
Oh yes. Do it!
Funtoo seems to be the only place where this kind of fundamental re-evaluation of the "distro packaging" problem is taking place. I've been seeing the problem from my own viewpoint, building a source-based distro that uses Arch Linux style pkgbuilds AND Gentoo style use-flags (which I call "features"). I have about 1500 packages which I upgrade no more than monthly. Almost any change, upgrading a library, changing a feature (e.g. semantic-desktop -> -semantic-desktop) requires a huge rebuild and I see that it may be impossible to get a well-defined and reliable "operating system" while simultaneously cantering to the inner child's gleeful delight in NEW and DIFFERENT stuff every day.
Maybe a step toward creating a Funtoo for large scale deployments would be to define one or two standard use-flag sets (e.g. kde or server) against which some volunteers test the portage tree and do a "light freeze" periodically and when it looks good enough define that set of ebuilds as a "tested standard release". Corporate/personal users could draw from the git branch "Release" to get something that at least is free of emerge blocks. They could even apply use-flags other than the standard, but the Release would be known to work well with the Standard Features set (with no user-imposed package masks).
I was taught that engineering is all about working toward a goal within limitations. It's dealing with the limitations that makes an engineer. However you do it I commend the idea of accepting limitations in order to produce a good product. I really appreciate Funtoo; I run Debian Testing, my own Kit Linux, and Funtoo. Of those Funtoo is the best operating system. (btw Debian is second...)
Posted 27 July 2014 - 10:54 PM
I think: or a precompiled distro or a source-based.
The distro that permit both binary pkg and compiling from sources, for me give great trouble (also see FreeBSD) cause are "spearate trees". and this may creeate conflict with very difficult possibility of merge it..
Portage is revoluctionary..... and for me the invicible package-manager on the Earth.
Thanks for All
Posted 28 July 2014 - 08:46 PM
@morphmex: I'm very happy that you've seen the differencies from a precompiled "generic" distro to the Magical Funtoo :P
Funtoo must never Dies :!!!
$ phoronix-test-suite benchmark c-ray
I hope not to have bored with this post
Good for All
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Posted 28 October 2014 - 11:20 PM
Drobbins. Something is very wrong with the universe. I keep agreeing with your decisions, goals, and even implementations. When I think, "there should be a way to do this better, maybe if ... " I suddenly see you are working on exactly that. I never agree with anyone about computers!
So .. I used to use Gentoo aeons ago, and now that I've tried everything else all over again, its time to rejoin the fold and drink the Kool-aid. I actually trust you to do the right thing with the distro I have on my computer, and I don't trust anyone else ... maybe Linus.
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Posted 05 January 2015 - 03:39 AM
If I can add a point, Funtoo is very developer friendly this is important to mention although not visible from the surface. We have the freedom to push in the tree fixes or new stuff while they stall in the Gentoo's bugzilla for months to not say years for a reason or another. Even with very little free time to spend on Funtoo it is always a pleasure to contribute and publish what could be helpful for others. Thanks again guys for your devotion and not stash people away, even they are not super active... But we are all user of our own distro after all.
Posted 05 January 2015 - 05:34 AM
From the bugs posted and the response, I was getting that impression that you and Oleg were just overworked.
One of the really nice things I've run into changing to Funtoo is that if I ask the right keywords to google, I will find my own answer to problems. But this has limits. Don't get me wrong, I whole-heartedly agree with what is going on in Funtoo. Its a refreshing change, and I agree it can be more fun.
Will kibitz/contribute where I can.
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